Dec 2019 - What went wrong?

User sloohand51 asked: "tell us more details about the process from first experience with M, to her running off with a bull? Im sure many of us would like to learn from the experience, even though its sad for you and we are all sorry about it. WHat would you do differently if anything? What was working? What was the point of no return? stuff like that?"

It's a long story and I don't write well, so this is the short version.

We were in the lifestyle 9 years together. I introduced her to it. She was young when we started, barely 20. Over time, we played more and more and things got more and more extreme. Not even a year into it, and she was fucking BBC every weekend, and sometimes during the week, too. I was fully enjoying and encouraging it.

Then, we met a bull and their chemistry was off the charts. Like nothing I'd seen. I could tell the first time they fucked that she was giving him some part of her that she didn't give to anyone else. I was jealous but it was a huge turn on. Best orgasms of my life hands down.

After that, she only wanted to fuck him, not other BBC. I was fine with that. Like I said, best orgasms ever for me and her. But one time he was fucking her and I was watching and he started ordering me to do stuff. Lick her pussy. Stroke his dick. I listened in the heat of the moment. It was a mistake. I didn't like the way I felt after. And I think she looked at me different after that. She started breaking our rules. Snuck around to see him without me there. Fucked him raw. When I found out I demanded she stop seeing him. She broke it off with him, but that was the beginning of the end for us. Months later we were filing for divorce.

Lessons learned for me
1) boundaries are key. When I could see she was falling in love, I should have asked her to stop seeing him instead of encouraging more of it.
2) I will never let a girl of mine fuck a steady BBC boyfriend. Change it up to avoid emotional attachment.
3) There's a difference between sharing your wife with a bull and submitting to a bull. Don't do the latter. She'll see you differently and it will change your dynamic. It did for my marriage anyway.

Happy to answer other questions.

Thanks.
Published by allfantasies
5 years ago
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lonesomecuckold
lonesomecuckold 1 year ago
Everything was ok with us, she had someone who could make her very happy sexually and made me happy being able to watch my wife enjoying the kind of sex I could not supply her with. Then things changed when I submitted to her lover, me being ordered to suck his cock, lick his balls and smell and lick his arse hole. She told me in her eyes I wasn’t a man anymore, even though the orders sometimes came from her. She met someone on line and then filled for a divorce.
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lonesomecuckold
lonesomecuckold 1 year ago
Same thing happened to me with my second wife, we regularly seen a black guy to enhance our sex life.
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max_68
max_68 1 year ago
Maybe it's exactly this "not 100% certainty" that gives us cuckies the kick... - at least for me it's part of my cucky DNA!
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max_68
max_68 1 year ago
This isn't meant to be preachy, but a relationship in this lifestyle needs to be very composed. By this I mean constantly discussing the rules and guidelines of all other players (hotwife cucky, lover) and readjusting them if necessary. If it's a very strong relationship, should it work? Of course there is no such thing as 100% certainty...

Hope, you´ll doing fine now!
(Translated with a program)
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allfantasies
allfantasies Publisher 1 year ago
to SATXCouple : thank you for your thoughts
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SATXCouple 1 year ago
to allfantasies :  That shows how much you care for your partner, you'd like her to experince things you cannot give her with your own attributes.  Its admirable and I've fell in love with many bulls mutliple times, its going to happen, its how do you keep control of the situation and make it work long term.  
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allfantasies
allfantasies Publisher 4 years ago
to madjack666 : Thanks I appreciate that, but I'm still self conscious about it. I let Ali do most of the worrying nowadays
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madjack666
madjack666 4 years ago
For what it's worth, your writing is awesome. Your thoughts are well-organized and you choose excellent words to describe the ideas you're expressing. Not bullshitting you about this... you should consider writing books about your experiences and self-publish on that massive platform that starts with Ama and ends with zon. Sell them for a few bucks a piece. I know you don't think you're a very good writer because you've stated that a few times. I hope you'll reconsider that perspective. Put it this way: I don't see anything at all in your prose that is lacking. You write as well as professionals who write for a living. Maybe when you say that you're not a good writer, what you're actually experiencing is something even professional writers experience: Difficulty in deciding what ideas you want to communicate first, visualizing the scope of what you will communicate in a particular post, etc. All totally normal, but once you decide to commit your ideas to the electronic page here... it's very well-done. Keep up the good work and thanks for letter us be part of the experience!
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triop 4 years ago
Only just read this, very sad to here. You are totally correct, you have to keep boundaries and both stick to them. Yes things might evolve over time but in the end this is a choice, it it's not good for you then you both have to be willing to stop it.
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Kircedes
Kircedes 5 years ago
seems like cucks need to be careful i would make sure my girl had more then one Big black dick and make sure as best you can to get more Hotwives and sluts to fuck the bull   Keep in too busy to try to fall in Love with your girlz  giglz
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JTMondal
JTMondal 5 years ago
I had a similar relationship with a cuckold couple I used to own. The  GF totally surrendered herself to me. But I never wanted to be very long term. I did end up breeding her. 
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urbanfox21
urbanfox21 5 years ago
to allfantasies : This I agree with but thank you for highlighting the risk and writing as you have...
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Sloohand51
to allfantasies : Some would say yourre a "stag" husband, not a "cuckold" husband, but I feel you man
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dial1
dial1 5 years ago
to allfantasies : I understand as it’s incredibly hot and the orgasms must have been phenomenal. I would be very interested in your stories of what y’all did if you wanted to share them in detail if it amused you to do so.
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dial1
dial1 5 years ago
to allfantasies : Ahhh yes tattoos! That’s unfortunate as her being a dancer makes it even hotter. And you can’t ever share them is a shame. If that ever changes.....
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allfantasies
allfantasies Publisher 5 years ago
to Sloohand51 : Im really not into humiliation or, becoming subservient to a bull. Definitely not into gay/bisex stuff. But watching a woman i love lose her mind with another man -- watching him make her feel things that I can't -- somehow that's the hottest thing in the world to me.
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allfantasies
allfantasies Publisher 5 years ago
to dial1 : Yes I do have vids. No I won't ever post. My wife was a dancer, and dance teacher, and she has unique tattoos. She would be easily recognizable to any of her students or anyone who has seen her perform. 
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allfantasies
allfantasies Publisher 5 years ago
to dial1 : I did fuck other women, with my wife's knowledge and support at the beginning. But pretty quickly it moved to us playing together with other women, and then to a focus on her playing with other men. Tbh i just found watching her with a hung guy, lost in lust, to be hotter -- it turned me on more than fucking other women. 
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vatiildal
vatiildal 5 years ago
It seems a common thread to many in the lifestyle. It turns from sharing to giving and that is a whole different situation. It's great that you can look back and see where things went wrong.
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Stiltskins 5 years ago
file under lessons learned in life ...  you are definitely not the first guy in the world to have that happen to and won't  be the last 
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dial1
dial1 5 years ago
I forgot to ask did y’all make any videos and have you ever posted any of them? I would love to see them.
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dial1
dial1 5 years ago
Thanks for answering the questions and love the videos you post. My question is did y’all ever have another woman.? Did she watch you? If so how often? If not why not? It seems swinging would keep it balanced especially if it’s going to be something you do every week. I think you definitely should share your experience to as many people who want to try this lifestyle as possible so they can avoid the pitfalls. You were far to agreeable as it progressed obviously. I’m sorry it worked out the way it did and it’s her loss as the bull rarely wants a real relationship with the woman as they prefer the arrangement. I’m sure. It wouldn’t work out for her in the long run with the bull. One last question what was your regular sex life like when the bull wasn’t present. Especially after she met her favorite bull at the end?
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MrBiggs12508 5 years ago
You're better off without the traitor. 
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Kutchang 5 years ago
to Sloohand51 : I don't really know the terminology, but maybe. Like I said, I just want wifey to enjoy the experience. Thanks for the input btw. Much appreciated 
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Sloohand51
to Kutchang : so youre not a cuck, youre a stag.  stag and hotwife couple is different than cuckold so sounds like thats what u like and are inside
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Kutchang 5 years ago
to Sloohand51 : Yeah, definitely won't be a cuck mate. It's not in my dna to be sexually submissive to a guy rooting my wife. Lol. By all means, I hope they both ENJOY the experience, especially wifey. That's what I really want to see. The absolute joy and pleasure on HER face. She makes the most AMAZING faces when we root and it sends me over the edge... Haha. But yeah, no submissive cuck for me... But when, or if, it ever happens, it will definitely be on her terms... Not mine. 
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Sloohand51
to boyjoe57 : not just the woman...theres a couple on XHam who started in cuckolding long ago, then developed into a live in with her bull, and now the husband is transitioning to a woman and he wasnt at all like that in the beginning, She and her bull have brought him to a weird place in my opinion... Its a bit freaky for my taste and of course extreme, but the power of cucking, if it becomes a lifestyle rather than a shared occasional activity, is pretty strong.  Theres ways to avoid it becoming too controlling but it really starts with choice of the bull.  Cant be just any stud.
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Sloohand51
to Kutchang : I think being a cuck involves some degree of sexual submission, not wimpiness, but submission to the woman and yes, the bull. If you arent sexually submissive, you will want to kick the dudes ass in real life. So maybe fantasizing about cuckolding is opening pandoras box for you.
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Sloohand51
Thank you for sharing your experience, these real world examples and feelings are very valuable, as you can see from the responsese below.  Most of us feel shitty for you, but in time it will work out the way it was supposed to be, right? 
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subWcouple 5 years ago
Thanks for sharing that !
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